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Queer Liberationist or Gay Assimilationist?
There are two opposing political viewpoints when it comes to advocacy and than of course there are a variety of more moderate middleground opinions that fall in between the Queer Liberationists and Gay Assimilationist camps.

Gay Assimilationists - This ideology is to make gay/lesbian people seem like average, normal everyday citizens in the eyes of the general public. They want to make the case that gay families deserve equal rights and recognition and they want what everyone else wants: a house with a white picket fence and 2.5 kids. Some Gay Assimilationists are not inclusive of Bisexuals or Transgender people because they feel these groups hurt the gay rights movement. This is not the case for all Assimilationists and many seek to include all LGBT people and create a sense of assimilation into the general society. Gay Assimilationists often seek to advance their agenda through corporate sponsorships and see getting big business and government on their side as a way to advance equality. The assimilationists strive to paint the LGBT community as being no different than the heterosexual world and just want to fit in. They want the rights to marriage, the rights to adoption, to serve freely and openly in the military. Part of achieving these means, Gay Assimilationists seek to tone down the sexual aspect of gay pride, they feel that sexuality is one component of gay relationships and seek to emphasize much more the loving, financial, community, and faith based aspects of LGBT relationships.

Queer Liberationists - This camp of political theory views gender and sexuality in non-conformist ways. They do not apologize for the differences of Queer individuals and do not seek to "fit in". They embrace the idea of "We're Here, We're Queer, Get Used to it!" and believe society must change to accept them rather than they change to mold into hetero-normative society. Queer Liberationists are often but not always concerned with Queer issues as they relate not only to LGBT people but also to capitalism, anti-militarism, sexism, racism and other aspects of social justice. They are less concerned with same-sex marriage, adoption, and don't ask don't tell. Many times but not always they are against the institution of marriage altogether, feel gays are liberated from the idea of raising kids, and are against gays serving in the military because they are anti-military to begin with. Queer Liberationists often disagree with the idea of corporate partnerships and having big business and government intervene in LGBT issues. Queer Liberationists do not seek to hide their sexuality and gender expression, they seek to embrace it and encourage what has conventionally been frowned upon as inappropriate.

These are two diametrically opposed political camps. Most people have various opinions that don't fall so heavily into one party or the other. Where do you lie and what are your thoughts?

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jannedoe From: jannedoe Date: May 19th, 2008 02:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
I recokn that makes me a Gay Assimilationists, however unlike some people, I recognize that it's LGBT and not just about being lesbian or gay. Bisexuals and transgendered/sexual deserve recognition and the same rights as all people, too. They do not hurt the cause of anyone because unlike how some people may protray them, they're every bit as normal as hetero- and homosexuals.

This doesn't mean we don't want to silence the sex issue, but goodness, who cares who I sleep with? I don't care who anyone else is shagging at night as long as they're human and over 18. I don't want who I'm sleeping with to matter to anyone else, either, and my job sure shouldn't be on the line based on whether I have a man or a woman waiting for me at home.

I'm not awake enough to do my usual hardcore ranting, but you get the idea.
From: jackislove16 Date: May 19th, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
I guess I fit in more with the GAs, although I don't try to hide or apologize for being bi. It's just, who I'm attracted to isn't the dominating theme of my life.
oboegoddess From: oboegoddess Date: May 19th, 2008 11:31 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm probably more toward the QL side myself, because I do believe we should embrace our diversity and differences. I think it's fine if people do want the white picket fence and all, but I don't like the implication that we should have to be like everyone else or "hurt" the GLBT movement. I think that society is not very friendly towards difference in general, and trying too hard to assimilate and perpetuate that attitude is more harmful in the end.

Another aspect of GA in its extreme form that I detest is the tendency of minority groups to turn against each other in the hopes of being accepted by the mainstream. For example, gays not accepting bi or trans folk because they don't fit the right mold. Or monogamous queer folk shunning polyamorous people because they might give the movement a bad, "slutty" name.
spideress From: spideress Date: May 20th, 2008 05:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I second these thoughts.
rhonan From: rhonan Date: May 20th, 2008 01:07 am (UTC) (Link)
On a totally different subject raised by your post. Part of the nature of an LJ community is the discussion that is raised by a good post. When someone writes something as thoughtful as this piece, and then spams the exact same article across a number of communities, the discussion gets fragmented. A far more effective way to publish something like this is to post it in only one community that allows non-member comments, or your own journal with open commenting, and then post a teaser in related communities that links back to the main post. That would do a much better job of starting conversation.
indifferenthues From: indifferenthues Date: May 28th, 2008 07:48 am (UTC) (Link)
except most LJ Communities do not allow you to do that

so the only thing you can do to reach many people with different viewpoints and configurations of Communities they belong to is to do what the OP has done, it's either that or pick and choose which Communities you should leave out of the discussion
oblyvia From: oblyvia Date: May 21st, 2008 01:59 am (UTC) (Link)

3 points

1. I think both sides have lost sight of what true equality is, and that many (perhaps even most) queers fall somewhere in the middle.

2. I've noticed that you use the terms queer, gay and LBGT interchangeably. As a bisexual, I find that rather annoying, and I'm betting the trans folk do as well.

3. Cross-posting everything you write to several communities and posting a link to your blog every chance you get is approaching spam. I understand you want to draw attention to the new site, but it gets to be a bit much for those of us that are members of 2 or 3 of the comms you cross post to.
indifferenthues From: indifferenthues Date: May 28th, 2008 07:58 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: 3 points

3. Cross-posting everything you write to several communities and posting a link to your blog every chance you get is approaching spam. I understand you want to draw attention to the new site, but it gets to be a bit much for those of us that are members of 2 or 3 of the comms you cross post to

I have no affiliation with the OP but as I mentioned above, the way the LJ Community System is set up if someone is trying to get information out to a particular constituency there really isn't anything else you can do

most people do not actually belong to more than one or two "allied" LJ Communities so if something is not X-Posted widely it means you are asking the OP to decide which Communities should not get some sort of useful information
From: uwldntundrstand Date: May 30th, 2008 06:23 am (UTC) (Link)


I guess if I had to fit myself into a category it would be GA. However, I'm not exactly a hardcore gay equal rights activist. There's more to this, but I'm too tired to go into it.
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